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Brent
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katnook Cabernet Sauvignon 2001: At last this wine has entered its drinking window, just as I have only 3 bottles left of the original 12. D'oh!!! Classic Coonawarra palate, but with a fair whack of tannin and oak thrown in for good measure. Should last for quite some years yet. \

R L Buller & Sons Rare Tokay: Well, this has me a bit stuffed. I bought this at the cellar door a good 2 years ago, along with the lovely Rare Frontignac and Rare Muscat, so I only have myself to blame. At the time of purchase, I must have been suitably impressed, but I open this bottle and its barely medium tawny colour, and the palate weight is middling at best. Its almost like a 'Grand' in palate weight. Certainly not the weight of say a Morris Liqeur series, a Campbells Merchant Prince or an All Saints Rare. Technically, there's nothing wrong with the wine at all, but for $90 per 375 ml bottle, there's far better value to be had elsewhere. Stick to the muscat.

Brent.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paradigm Hill L'ami sage Pinot Noir 2007 A bit closed and primary at first, but opened up by the end of dinner. Cherry, plum and some good oak, lovely acidity and beautiful with the food at Becasse

Forest Hill Chardonnay 2008 I like that aussie chard is moving towards tighter and finer styles, but I still like to see a little ripe fruit, which I was expecting at 14% in this wine. Very good acidity, but a very primary citrus tasting chardonnay. Some struck match, barrel work and oak obvious on the nose, but pure lemon fruit to taste, making somewhat hard work till it was almost room temperature. Perhaps I opened it too young
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saskia & Elli Beer kicked off the first of their Slow Sunday lunches at the farm yesterday so a motley crew got together to sup some wines...all except the sparklings served double blind with options....thanks for the Slovakian Riesling Scott!! Evil or Very Mad

Brief notes to be filled in during the day

Rendardt-Fache Cerdon de Bugey
David Leclapart l'Amateur
2000 Freycinet Radenti Chardonnay Pinot Noir
2006 Gerard Tremblay Chablis 1er Fourchaumes
2007 Raveneau AC Chablis
2006 Pieropan La Rocca Soave
2007 Stephane Aladame Montagny 1er
1990 Leo Buring DWT17 Riesling
2007 Chateau Bela Riesling
2005 Thierry Puzelat Montlouis
2008 The Wanderer Pinot Noir
2004 Wendouree Shiraz Malbec
2007 Ashton Hills Pinot Noir
1994 Leasingham Classic Clare
2006 Schloss Lieser NH Auslese
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: Weekend 6 - 7 Feb wines Reply with quote

davidw wrote:
I pay 50% tax on my income.

You might want to get yourself a better accountant.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Artist FKAN wrote:
AlanK wrote:
2006 Domaine des Croix Beaune Greves - Bright red fruits on the nose. The palate is fresh and creamy. Quite a lot is going on, but the oak needs 3-5 years to settle down and come together. Lovely already, will get even better.


This producer and Camille Giroud (both made by 30-year-old David Croix) are now available in Australia ... Alan you seem to like drinking wines in HK that I import to Aus!

The only 06s Croix I bought in though were the Beaune 1er cru Bressandes and Beaune 1er cru Pertuisots.


I have the Cent Vignes 06 as well. Lovely wine, ready to go.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2008 Woodlands Chloe Chardonnay Very good gear that i picked up on my recent trip to MR - noice.
2008 Jamsheed Silvan Syrah, Yarrah Valley Close to the best young aussie wine i've had in the last 12 months. Very classy gear Mr Mills, rhone me up!
2007 Bindi Original Pinot Very noice - great oak integration, something so many new world pinot producers can't get right IMHO.
2003 Yarra Yarra Cabernets Brett brett brett, what I imagine the tomb of Tutankhamun smelt like when opened....bandages. Sophie Otton (i drank it at Rockpool) said it wasn't clean, although my friends thought it was nice and wouldn't hear of a replacement.

SM
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great dinner at Vue de Monde. Top nosh - very clever, and great service, even if arranging to bring along my own bottle of CdP was akin to passing a series of job interviews there, and needed to be brought to the restaurant 4 hrs in advance of actually arriving there to eat.

Felton Road riesling 2007 - a lovely off-dry style; really very nice.

1998 Penfold's Bin 707 - Sensational. Rich, black-purple. Intoxicating nose of cassis, violets, spice and leather. Huge palate, mindboggling in its poise and balance. Well-integrated vanillin oak. Secondary character just starting to show. Gloriously long finish. Not even starting to show it's age. Despite it's power and size, everything is in balance from start to finish. An elegant monster, still a decade from its plateau.

1995 La Crau Domaine de Vieux Telegraphe CdP - Purple but translucent. Plum, pepper and tobacco. Very complex on the palate - fruit dominated by spice and cigar box. Lovely.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:
Regarding the 20 points vs 100 points scale, a common way to transfer 20 points scores to the 100 points scale is simply multiply the 20 points score by 2.5 and add the result to 50.

If you do that, a 16/20 points wine becomes 90/100, while 18/20 becomes 95.

Other issues aside, is there really that much differences between the 20 points and 100 points scale?

If you take the score of mediocre wines to be 10/20 or 75/100, and 0.5 as the increment on the 20 points scale, and 1 as the increment on the 100 points scale, there are 20 increments from 10 to 20 (10.5, 11, 11.5, 12......18.5,19,19.5,20), while obviously 25 increments from 75 to 100.

20 steps vs 25 steps?


Why not just multiply by 5?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

azzah wrote:
AlanK wrote:
Regarding the 20 points vs 100 points scale, a common way to transfer 20 points scores to the 100 points scale is simply multiply the 20 points score by 2.5 and add the result to 50.

If you do that, a 16/20 points wine becomes 90/100, while 18/20 becomes 95.

Other issues aside, is there really that much differences between the 20 points and 100 points scale?

If you take the score of mediocre wines to be 10/20 or 75/100, and 0.5 as the increment on the 20 points scale, and 1 as the increment on the 100 points scale, there are 20 increments from 10 to 20 (10.5, 11, 11.5, 12......18.5,19,19.5,20), while obviously 25 increments from 75 to 100.

20 steps vs 25 steps?


Why not just multiply by 5?


Apparently, because Parker gives all his wine an initial 50 points.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlanK wrote:
azzah wrote:
AlanK wrote:
Regarding the 20 points vs 100 points scale, a common way to transfer 20 points scores to the 100 points scale is simply multiply the 20 points score by 2.5 and add the result to 50.

If you do that, a 16/20 points wine becomes 90/100, while 18/20 becomes 95.

Other issues aside, is there really that much differences between the 20 points and 100 points scale?

If you take the score of mediocre wines to be 10/20 or 75/100, and 0.5 as the increment on the 20 points scale, and 1 as the increment on the 100 points scale, there are 20 increments from 10 to 20 (10.5, 11, 11.5, 12......18.5,19,19.5,20), while obviously 25 increments from 75 to 100.

20 steps vs 25 steps?


Why not just multiply by 5?


Apparently, because Parker gives all his wine an initial 50 points.


Ah the Parker reigns surpreme! Is this the rule for everyone?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2001 M. Chapoutier St. Joseph Les Granits (Blanc)- Picked up by the case at a ridiculous low price (<$20 AUD per bottle). This white St. Joseph is made from 100% Marsanne, half fermented in vat, half in casks.

The nose of the wine is filled with honeysuckles and minerals. Very well balanced palate, with some refreshing acidity showing behind the honeyed body of the wine, and also the finish which is filled with vanilla spices.
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